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    A suggestion for the CCIE written test program

    In Brad Reese's Cisco Subnet blog, Robert Williams of CertGuard commented on the article about my recertification:
    I'm sure many "professionals" in his position would have opted to take the easy road and just "study to pass"...
    There are a bunch of 'study guides' or 'brain dumps' available that are direct copies of the test questions. Yes, I've seen some of them and I have a problem with them. A number of the answers that they provide are not correct, at least by my interpretation. So someone who is using a study guide will have a 'test finger print' based on the set of incorrect answers that match those in the brain dump. I think there's a relatively easy way for Cisco to make these study guides less effective and to make sure that candidates know the material.
    Increase the test database to over 1000 questions and don't repeat questions for candidates. Cisco already publishes a syllabus of topics, which would be the basis for subject areas. Create ten questions for each individual subject. Make sure that a candidate's test doesn't contain a repeat question until after ten attempts. A candidate would have to know the subject or memorize many more questions than with the current test database.
    With a large enough database, Cisco could publish the questions for public review and comment. This would have the byproduct of allowing comment on bad questions and improve question quality. It would even be useful to allow people to suggest questions, subject to review and acceptance by Cisco. Using this process, the question database could quickly be several thousand questions and more fully evaluate a candidate's subject knowledge.
    -Terry
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    IPExpert / Internetwork Expert Mini-Review

    I have done a preliminary review on both the Blended Learning Solution (the Video-on-Demand module) from IPExpert and also Internetwork Expert’s Class-on-Demand v4.5. Both these products are end-to-end solutions meaning that they are designed to guide you from the start till the end for the CCIE exam. I have not tested/seen the workbooks yet as I am still concentrating on the theory part of the CCIE and not the lab yet hence I would fail miserably at reviewing workbooks at this point of time. (I agree that at some point I will start to work on the labs at least from the focus technology-types or volume I (from Internetwork Expert)).
    Now these are my personal opinions only. They do not reflect the general view of the CCIE community and I am not being paid to say good stuff/not-so-good stuff about any products :P. The review is also based on just viewing the first few videos from both vendors, online community/support and physical attributes of the products. So keep that in mind when you read the below. Finally, wherever costs are applicable, I am putting the net cost without any discount vouchers hence the prices are as per advertised on their website. Without much ranting, here are my findings so far.

    Blended Learning Solution (from IPExpert (http://www.ipexpert.com))

    The instructor is none other than Scott Morris, the uber geek who recently moved to Internetwork Expert from IPExpert hence this was done before the move.

    The good about this product.
    • Cheap, most affordable among the end-to-end by any vendor as far as I know (please correct me if I am wrong :-)) at USD $999.00 and it came in a 100GB hard disk which is not entirely filled. Guess what I did with the extra space? ;-)


    • Excellent and active mailing lists which a lot of candidates and more importantly the instructors participate.


    • The lectures are in-depth and Scott explains it with a touch of humour here and there (especially when he said many CCIE candidates think of his voice when they are doing their exams hehe). It makes the class more fun to learn. Fun is VERY important for me in my studies ;-).


    • The Blended Learning Solution GUI is one of the best GUIs I have seen for a CCIE product. Very simple yet informative enough and also it integrates themodules tightly. You want workbooks? Just click on the icon and you’re on your way! (yes … you still need an active Internet connection for modules like the workbooks but that’s just because the vendor wants you to have the latest and greatest that they can offer on their end).


    • Excellent support from the IPExpert team. They are very prompt in answering any doubts and currently offering very good discounts on their products (check Mike Down’s blog for cool discounts especially on the ProctorLabs).


    • Does being a fan of Jared counts? :P



    The not-so-good about this product.
    • To be honest, I am almost fully satisfied with the product except for a quite annoying issue. The sound of the video-on-demand is not exactly to my expectation. The opening short music of each video is very loud but then when Scott came on the screen, his voice is way too soft. I often find myself having to minimize the volume when the intro of each video session begins and then increase the volume when Scott starts to speak.





    IE’s CCIE R&S End-to-End Program (from Internetwork Expert (http://www.internetworkexpert.com))

    The instructors are none other than Brian Dennis, a 5xCCIEs holder and Brian McGahan, a 3xCCIEs holder.

    The good about this product.
    • Good plan payment. You are offered a 4-months plan payment for the package instead of forking out the entire cost at the point of purchase.


    • The workbooks and Class-on-Demand videos are one of the more popular ones among CCIE-certified/candidates and judging from the first few videos, I can see why. The videos are top-notch with Brian McGahan explain the concepts very clearly. I really his style of presentation. I have not seen the videos by Brian Dennis yet so I can’t comment on that just yet.


    • The audio books are short but it does serve its point in giving you a very general review on the technology concepts. This way if you’re like me, you’ll start asking, “That’s it? I need to find out more!!!” and before you know it, you’ll start searching for the answers on CCO or the C-o-D.


    • They have a very good resources link on their website. IE went to the trouble of even giving you configurations on Dynamips on your PC for free. You don’t see a lot of vendors doing that eh? That’s a big plus point in my books.


    • Dynamips-tailored labs topologies. Yup even though I have mentioned that I have yet to see the workbooks but I am a very BIG fan of Dynamips. I have been using Dynamips for my CCNA and my CCNP preparations.


    • Does being a fan of Brian McGahan counts? :P



    The not-so-good about this product.
    • A little expensive. At USD $2,995.00, I had to think very hard before purchasing this product. But after being a good discount and also the 4-months payment plan, I still ended up finishing my ENTIRE life savings on two CCIE products.





    So that’s it about my mini-review on both products. In conclusion/summary, both these products are top-notch and it gives you a different lab perspective from two different vendors. As a final note since I got two e-mails asking whether these products are similar to the CCIE labs, I can assume they mirror the difficulty of the labs and more than that BUT they are not the same as the labs themselves. These are not labs dumps for crying out loud!

    I am currently in the midst of working on two major projects + a wedding dinner reception in September so studies on my CCIE will only start full-blown in October 2008. As of now, I am spending my time reading the Cisco CCIE Exam Guide 3rd edition by Cisco press to spend time :-).
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